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| ***** Ask the ‘Green Ranter’ ***** the ranter answers... ...on this page, you will find the ranter's unique comments on the subjects of plural marriage, bread of the "last supper", tsitsith (ceremonial fringes), loyalty to corrupted houses of prayer, and the concept of "beyn ha'arbaiim" (between the two evenings)... (Some of our readers claim this stuff is easier to understand when they have their tongue in their cheek. Anyone know what they mean by that?)... ******************************* Dear Reader; Please bear with us in our hour of need. Our friend the “ranter” has been losing weight lately, without explanation, until recently. A contributor had suggested that the commandment, “Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day,” might suggest a prohibition against mere incineration to remove trash,(Exodus 35:3), rather than use for warmth, transportation, or light. This allegation appeared to be based on the Hebrew word, “th’va’aru”, with it's implications of unthinking use of fire for the purpose of mere removal, used in this instance to clarify the type of use of the fire, “eysh”. The contributor suggested an alternate translation of “You shall not incinerate with fire in all your habitations on the sabbath day.” We also considered "You must not be careless with fire in all your habitations on the sabbath day," and "You must not prohibit use of fire in all your habitations on the sabbath day." This idea could be monumental! If you have any constructive thoughts on the subject, we’d sure like to hear from you. The ranter is about at the end of his rope. appreciatively, the editor
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Dear Green Ranter;
In our bible study today, questions of torah, adultery, and plural marriage came up. There seemed to be some dissent, and it was implied that a man who was said to have had two wives at the same time would of necessity have been an adulterer. Would you care to add your two cents worth to the fray?
Sincerely, Walter Dear Walter:
With pleasure. If you don’t mind, let’s for the sake of brevity try to examine the point at which all three topics; torah, adultery, and plural marriage overlap. I can’t see getting worked up to a frenzy on this one however. As we say, “where the bible speaks softly…” and you know the rest. As you are no doubt aware, there are both positive and negative commandments. This matter, however, may fall more into a “no man’s land” of torah, where the bible speaks very, very, softly. If you want a loud voice (which some of us true ranters and ravers really admire, at times) on the subject, you may need to appeal to the laws of the land, either the one in which you dwell, or some other that might interest you. Due to the multiplication of words and opinions in the Babylonish system, you can often get an explicit and dogmatic ruling out of a secular authority, that Yahweh in his wisdom chose to withhold from his instruction to his human family. It is so in this case.
Let’s get an overview, first, of examples from the beginning, end, and selected mid points of the flow of history. If you will; “go with the flow.” First, Adam & Chawah in the garden of Edhen (rhymes with “they then”) were united in monogamy, which I think we can accept to be “plan A”, and the most direct and likely route to marital bliss. That this plan “A” is still viable and applicable is evident from two observations. One, that Yahweh has decreed that it is not good for the man to be alone, for which reason Chawah was created (a singular creation, we might note). And two, that barring large-scale slaughter of males, there will typically be insufficient women available to suffice more than one for each man, so that if many took two or more, many would also go without. This, we repeat, would not be good. Last, we can expect that, as Yahwshua told us, in the heavenly kingdom they do not marry; plan Z? And in between we find? We find all of the above, plus various combinations of plural marriage; formal and informal, licit and illicit, temporary and less temporary, none enduring beyond death. To this overview, let us compare and apply torah.
To the best of my limited knowledge, there are only two items of the torah from Yahweh at Sinai that relate to plural marriage in the general population of Israel, and two from Mosheh later in torah. First Deuteronomy 5:5-10, the levirate marriage law. There appears (from this) to be no indication here that having his own wife would exempt the surviving brother from his obligation to his dead brother’s widow, in other words, an example of torah-condoned bigamy? Next consider please Leviticus 18:18, the law forbidding having sisters to wife while both are alive. To prohibit such a specific type of polygyny, with no explicit prohibition of polygyny in general, seemingly indicates either a gross oversight unbefitting our Elohim, or else a tacit toleration of the condition, no doubt subject to the rest of torah. For a third example, Exodus 21:7-11 helps us to understand some limitations on polygyny. Here it is evident that generally, it was considered unjust for a man to take another wife, if so doing infringed upon the current wife’s rights. In other words, it would be practically essential, before adding an additional wife, to gain the approval of the current one (or more). And fourth, torah provides (De. 21:15-17) direction for the contingency that a man must give the proper portion of inheritance to the eldest son, regardless whether he be the son of the beloved or the hated wife. I doubt it can be proved that this of necessity would relate only to one wife at a time.
In a torah-ruled society, failure to consider and fulfill an earlier wife’s rights could only result in a very disagreeable domestic condition, or a nasty court battle. Even with a good faith negotiated deal, as with Avraham, Sarah, and Hagar, contention and strife was a real possibility. Let the buyer beware. And he may beware also, that in some jurisdictions, one can do some serious jail time for polygamy, even if done within torah. Perhaps a note to the wise would be in order though, that although torah does not forbid polygyny, neither does it encourage the practice, and it definitely does not demand it. “A single handful with contentment, is better than a double handful with travail and striving after wind.” Perhaps it should be considered also, that in practically every piece of marital advice given in the Renewed Testament, it is spoken in assumption that the union will be one man and one woman (at a time).
On the other hand, you may be surprised to consider in reflection how lenient Yahweh has been in prosecuting the actual laws against polygyny. You will recall that the kings of Israel were prohibited from multiplying wives to themselves. Yet we see polygyny as the norm, rather than the exception for the kings of Israel and Yahwdhah (rhymes with how-saw). Yet rebukes from the prophets on this matter total zero, except where murder or adultery was also involved, as with Dawidh, Ooriah, and Bathshevah. Even where Dawidh inherited the wives of his father in law, Shaul, the matter was not prosecuted, even though it could possibly have been interpreted as taking a father’s wife, also a very serious matter. But let the lascivious, the hated of Yahweh beware: nothing in this letter should be construed to be license to commit acts of mere harlotry, fornication, or promiscuity. Your sins will find you out.
Incidentally, and perhaps interestingly, what is sauce for the goose is not always sauce for the gander. There appears to be even less provision in torah for the tolerance of polyandry, which is defined as having more than one male mate at the same time, in other words, what is called the “oldest profession.” It was commonly called harlotry, or prostitution, and was usually considered dishonorable in Israel.
By the way, we can probably make a case for murder with Lamech, but without testimony from his wives and neighbors, adultery won’t hold much water. And remember, please, the penalties for false witness. It is still possible that Lamech could be allowed to defend himself from that charge as part of his trial for other crimes in the Judgement of Yahweh. Bigamy: definitely, but it’s doubtfull that we could get a U.S. court to take the case for adultery, so long ago, and so far away. And anyway, bigamy was not a U.S. crime during Lamech’s lifetime, so a U.S. trial, in my opinion, is a really long shot.
Was that worth two cents? G.R.
Ps.—Let me know, will you, if this covers the question adequately, or excessively, or if it missed the point altogether? Hey! You forgot to tell me what your point of view is!
Dear Green Ranter: Thanks for your opinion. Looks like what you said squares pretty well with the bible that I’ve been reading. I appreciate your candor; it’s so hard nowadays to find anyone willing to go out on a limb, with anything worth reading. My point of view? I just wish I had one. Hey! I’ll just use yours!
Sincerely, Walter
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Dear Green Ranter:
Was the bread eaten at the “Last Supper” really leavened bread?
signed, “hungry for truth”
Dear “Hungry”;
Not necessarily. It is assumed to be “lechem” (food, or ordinary bread), and is not specifically called “matzo”, but could easily have been (I believe it was). The “shew bread” in the Tabernacle of Yahweh was called “lechem ha-panim”, and yet is generally considered to have been unleavened (matzo).
sincerely, gr
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‘Green Ranter’ is still looking for “just a few good bible related questions”,
and can still be contacted (written questions only) c/o
GTY 92 Sweet Arrow Lake Road Pine Grove PA 17963.
It’ll be a real free-for-all; but the truth will make you-all free, right?
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There’s MORE!
We asked the ‘Green Ranter’ some
Questions on Tsitsith – (Based on Mathew 23)
We wish to protect the innocent, but picture if you will, a somewhat dissipated and derelict individual, who could not seem to stop talking once he got into discussion of a bible topic he found interesting. It looked for all the world like green mold growing on his shoes, but it may have been paint. He did not seem to take offense when those who knew him best called him the “Green Ranter.” He was willing to be interviewed, and we were able to record this “man on the street” exchange.
“Good afternoon, Sir, my name is Walter, and I’m with ‘Glory to Yahweh’”. “May I call you the Green Ranter?” “Just plain ‘Green Ranter’ if you like, young fellow, or ‘G.R.’ will do.” “What can I do for you?” “Just a few questions, Sir, can you spare us a few minutes?” “Fire away, Walt, I’ll see what I can do.” Below are our questions, and his responses. It may be noted that our agenda included no provision whatever for limiting ourselves to easy or straightforward topics. Strictly no holds barred; nor, of course, any bars held up. Thankfully, there were no injuries.
GTY: OK, G.R., you’ve no doubt read Mathew 23 recently. Did Yahshua really object to the wearing of “fringes” by, and the unfaithfulness of, certain Pharisees of his day? G.R. responds: Perhaps we can show that these ought they to have done, and not to have left the other undone.
GTY: So you think there can there be redundancy in religious observance? Wear fringes and have the spirit of Elohim? GR: Absolutely! Elohim, by his spirit, (Rom.8:26) intercedes for us and our needs, yet we are still permitted, even encouraged, to petition him with our requests, and ask other people to join us in petition. Neither do we attempt to prevent Yahshua (Heb.7:25) from acting as our intercessor. I see analogy between the two effects of the spirit, intercession and causing remembrance, both helping us to serve Yahweh our Elohim with rejoicing. And as the former does not forbid supplementary assistance, such as prayer by friends, I believe that the latter also welcomes assistance, in the form of the wearing of fringes. Do you believe so too?
GTY: Yes, of course. But didn’t Yahshua object somewhat to the wearing of ceremonial fringes (tsitsith and g’dhilim)? GR: No explicit prohibition by Yahshua or any of his talmidhim can be found so far. Perhaps the objection was more to attitudes and ostentatious display?
GTY: No doubt. What commandment, however, did some Pharisees break in but not necessarily by their conspicuous display of fringes? GR: Perhaps, “You must not bear false witness?” Why do you ask?
GTY: Our readership loves it when we put people on the spot with tough questions! Would you care to explain your last response? GR: Certainly. No law forbids a conspicuous display of fringes, but if the heart is not right, it can communicate false witness. How so, you wonder? Wearing fringes should indicate desire to remember and submit to Torah, but if the heart is actually full of rebellion, then the wearing of fringes becomes an expression of false witness.
GTY: We should not want to do that! But there are those who object to any kind of visibility by others in the wearing of the ceremonial fringes. Who are the tsitsith not to be seen by? GR: Yahweh. Even though he will see them, that is not the intent. Notice he says YOU will look upon them, not WE.
GTY: Is simply wearing fringes enough to fulfill the mitswah? GR: No. We must also look upon them, remember and do torah, and be holy to Yahweh.
GTY: Sounds like a lofty goal. Won’t we fall short of it? GR: Yes.
GTY: Won’t people wear them with wrong motives? GR: Yes. The Pharisaical interpretation, in this incident, at least, was to wear them for a show, presumably to deflect attention from their other moral failings. Do not after their works, for they say, but do not.
GTY: Preoccupation with the “letter” of the law, in other words. And just what is the “letter” of the law of fringes? GR: Make “fringes”, wear and see them, remember and do torah, and be holy to Yahweh.
GTY: And what is the “spirit” of the law? GR: Pretty much as for the previous question, but with better motives?
GTY: But Yahshua definitely took issue with something that the Pharisees were doing! What exactly did he forbid? GR: Four things, at last count: “do not after their works, …be not called Ravvi, …call no man ‘father’”, and perhaps “You shall not see me… till you shall say, Blessed is he that comes b’shem Yahweh.”
GTY: What did Yahshua command, if anything, in this context? GR: Do and observe whatever of the Torah of Mosheh that he has commanded you. In other words, his speech was intended to remind people of their obligation to holiness, one of the purposes that the fringes had been given for.
GTY: What lesson may we draw from all this? GR: Serve Yahweh in humility.
GTY: To this end, must we conceal or disguise our religious observance? GR: Let your light shine before men that they may glorify your father in heaven.
GTY: Is there ever a time to conceal our religious observance? GR: Perhaps in times of persecution.
GTY: Perhaps you are beginning to perceive that I’m using “religious observance” as a euphemism for “wearing of ceremonial fringes.” Let me be explicit now. Is there evidence in the Hebrew Torah that the wearer must conceal his fringes? GR: Haven’t seen it. Have you?
GTY: No, of course not. But is there any implication in Torah that they should be exposed or concealed? GR: You shall look upon them.
GTY: Must they be of a certain size? GR: Fringes, Hebrew g’dhilim, from root gadhal, meaning ‘twist’, or ‘make large’. Presumably they must be large enough to be seen by the wearer. I don’t see any indication that they must be large enough to be seen by others, although if they were, perhaps it could be considered “community service.” Perhaps one reason the Prushim were singled out for attention concerning their tsitsith was their zeal for such “community service,” while neglecting their own practice of the weightier matters of Torah.
GTY: Is there a parallel between the wearing of tsitsith and circumcision? GR: Neither is always essential for salvation. For example, unless one is born with clothing on, and never takes it off, there will always be times when we simply are not wearing anything to fasten fringes on to. And of course circumcision only applies, at most, to half of the people, and even then only from after their seventh day from birth. Perhaps you would like to commit to paper your thoughts on the topic, and share them with me?
GTY: Yes, I’ll plan to do so. But for now, of course, You are the one in the limelight, and it's your time to shine. Tell us, what is the symbolism in the wearing of tsitsith? GR: That’s a tough one. May I speculate? Let’s look back to the garden of Eden. For a time, they had no garments at all to fasten fringes onto, and that was all right. It was not until after their sinful fall that the situation changed, and they attempted a cover-up. Imagine how quickly fig-leaf aprons would tatter and tear. Even leather is not forever. And even with modern woven garments, consider how quickly a cut or a tear will unravel with laundering and use if not repaired. Try it sometime. Cut off the extremities of a shirt or pair of pants, and you may be surprised to see how quickly tsitsith and g’dhilim develop on your garment automatically, as fringes of threads unravel and tangle. How much like filthy rags are our most sincere attempts at righteousness before a holy Elohim! It would be easy to argue that the symbolism in the fringes is to remind us of our humble antecedents, and of our dire need of salvation; they being as if ragged and tattered edges to the garments of righteousness with which we attempt to conceal our spiritual deficiencies! And even their public display should be done as if we would publicly confess our sins as we forsake them, and not as of arrogant boastfulness. A wearer may remember that the command for tsitsith was originally given soon after an incident of sin in the wilderness camp of Israel, and may have been consequential in all of the implications of the word. Was it a sign of the imposition of a time of probation for the people, and a warning that Yahweh, the all-seeing one, would no longer entertain mere frivolous excuses for high-handed rebellion? Perhaps it should be considered as if a sign, our wearing of tsitsith, that we have torn our hearts, and not merely our garments? But even though the wearing of tsitsith can have such lowly connotations, and the practice has been observed to be so ineffectual in certain circumstances, and it may not be our most urgent religious obligation, neither is it a unique instrument in the fulfillment of its (non-the-less very important) mission, we need to remember that Yahweh did at one time command it. And we need to stop somewhat short of implying that he was mistaken in doing so, or that his servants are mistaken in obeying.
GTY: Amen. Well said. But for now, what do you say, can we have the spirit of Elohim without wearing tsitsith? GR: Can we have love without marriage, or a horse without a carriage?
GTY: O.K. Can we really have love without marriage, or a horse without a carriage? GR: Yes, I suppose so, but would it be as much fun?
GTY: What will the Holy spirit bring to our remembrance? GR: Torah, including the mitswoth concerning fringes!
GTY: Do we need to always wear fringes? GR: No – It is just a ‘fringe’ benefit for serving Yahweh! Enjoy! And you can tell them ‘Green Ranter’ says so!
“Thank you, Sir, It has been most enjoyable.”
There’s More!
Dear Green Ranter:
What obligations do we have, if any, to a corrupted religious organization to which we have pledged allegiance? They have really deviated from the faith that they originally professed. Sincerely, Walter Schwenk
Dear Walter:
Thanks for asking! We amateur prophets get many such questions, and it never fails to touch our hearts how fickle the souls of recipients of misplaced trust and confidence can be. Courage! You are not alone. Your Redeemer lives, and will not betray your faithfulness.
Presumably, they extracted from you, as is so typical, a commitment to accept correction from the “holy scriptures”, as interpreted by their earthly leadership. Therein, simply, is the key. You agreed to accept correction, but you did not agree to coalesce with decadence or submit to hypocrisy! The truth has set you free. Do not return to the bondage of sin and corruption; either yours, or anyone else’s.
You may wish to admonish them for their deviations from the way that Yahweh has set us apart in, and cordially explain why you can no longer accompany them in their error; it would seem the neighborly thing to do. Perhaps they will hear you, and the human relationships can be salvaged. If not, remember that obligation to your Elohim comes before obligation to man. Be wiser in future, as we continue to pray that Yahshua will find faithfulness still on the earth at his return.
Sympathetically, your neighbor, g.r.
Dear Green Ranter:
Would you care to shed some light on the Hebrew phrase “Beyn Ha’arbayim”, as found in Exodus 12:6, usually translated “between the two evenings”? sincerely, Walter S.
Dear Walter:
Certainly! Glad to help. Although this specified period of time has been interpreted from as much as six hours or more too soon, to as much as 23 or more hours too late, the correct time is very easily determined. First we need a definition of the word “evening.” Hopefully we can, first of all, agree that an evening is basically a time, or period of time, between day and night. That being given, let’s get specific. The answer is in the beginning (B’reshith 1:16-18, Genesis). The greater light was to rule the day, and the lesser lights to rule the night. Therefore, when the greater light ceases to rule the day (sunset), the first “evening” has occurred. When the lesser lights begin to rule the night, typically when the stars appear, a second evening can be said to occur. There is a period of at least several minutes between these two events - beyn ha’arbayim, the time between the two evenings. Let me know what you think of this, will you? Best wishes for Passover.
Sincerely, G.R.
Dear Green Ranter: What does “evening” mean? signed, anonymous
Dear Anonymous;
Don’t be embarrassed, a lot of people don’t seem to fully understand what the word “evening” means. Maybe I can help. Again, perhaps we should start at the “beginning”, B’reshith, Genesis 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, and 31. There we see a regular pattern of the normal 24 hour period being called a “day” or “yom”. Each of those periods begins with an “evening”, or “erev”. Since the scripture does not say, “…and the evening and the morning and the evening…”, but merely “…and the evening and the morning…” (were the 1st-6th day), can we safely assume that the day begins, but does not end with an “evening”? I’m going to wax bold and speculate here that the day ends not with “evening”, but with sunset, the “going in” of the sun. When the sun has completely “gone in”, that is the moment of the occurrence of the first “evening”, and evening has begun. Evening continues until the time of visibility of the stars, which is the beginning of night, layla. While it might be ok to bend these scriptural definitions to fit our secular and personal activities; in regulating our walk in YHWH’s Torah, we need to be much more circumspect. We Hebrew scripturalists need to remember that much more is on the line than merely our own reputation. Look up.
sincerely, gr
Don’t go far away! There’ll be more soon!
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